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Sunday, September 9, 2012

Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord No More (Comments, Lyrics, & Videos)

Posted on 7:15 PM by Unknown
Edited by Azizi Powell

This post provides lyrics, comments, and two videos of the song "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord No More".

The content of this post is provided for folkloric, and entertainment purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

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COMMENTS
Comments About & Two Examples Of Religious Versions Of This Song
"Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord No More" has been most widely known since at least the mid 20th century as a call & response children's camp song. However, early versions of this song point to its origin in the late 19th century or the early 20th century as an African American Gospel song.

The African American Gospel origin of "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord..." is evident in its call & response structure, and in the African American vernacular that those early verses & that the title and chorus lines have. The African American origin of "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord..." is also evident in the use of verses found in versions of that song as as "floaters" in other African American songs (spirituals, Gospel songs, African American children's playground rhymes, civil rights songs, and early Rock N' Roll songs.)*

*An example of the use of lyrics of this song in children's rhymes is found below. The "Paul & Silas bound in jail" verse found below is an example of the use of floating verses from this song in civil rights song. An example of floating verse that is found in some religious and early non-religious (parody) versions of "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord..." that is also found in an early Rock and Roll song is this verse from the Bo Diddley song "Dearest Darling": "if I get to heaven/ before you do/ I'll try to make a hole/ and pull you through". In my opinion, that verse is a parody of the Gospel floating verse "If you get to heaven before I do/ just tell my friends, I'm coming too".

Here are two examples of the early religious versions of "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord..."
Example #1
..."Newman I White, 1928 (1965), "American Negro Folk Songs," no. 28, no. 70.

No. 70
Lyr. Add: AIN'T GONNA GRIEVE, MY LORD, NO MORE (4)

Oh! down in the valley where I was told
The grace of God is better than gold
The grace of God is better than gold.

Chorus:
Ain't gonna grieve my Lord no more,
Ain't gonna grieve my Lord no more.

Oh! watch the sun, see how it run,
Never let it catch you with your work undone,
Never let it catch you with your work undone.

Oh! down yonder in the harvest field,
The angels are working on the chariot wheel
The angels are working on the chariot wheel.

Oh! Satan's like a snake in the grass,
Always in some Christian's path (2x).

Oh! mind, my sister, how you walk on the cross,
Your right foot'll slip and your soul'll get lost (2x).

These verses used in many similar songs. MS of W. H. Lander, 1919, Durham, NC."
-Retrieved from http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=75082 (Hereafter known as Mudcat: Ain't Gonna Grieve),Q, Date: 03 Nov 04 - 11:25 PM

Editor's note: The Mudcat blogger who goes by the name "Q" wrote in that post that "there seems to be an older "Ain't Gonna Grieve" out there. Public Domain Music lists "I Ain't Gonna Grieve No More" with a date of 1865. No source is listed".
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Unfortunately, the link that Q gave for that information is no longer valid.
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Example #2
I Ain't Gwine to Grieve My Lord No More

Oh, look up yonder! (Oh, look up yonder, yonder what I see?) What I see?
Bright angels coming after me (Bright angels coming after me).

CHORUS:
I ain't gwine to grieve my Lord no more,
For the Bible told me so;
I ain't gwine to grieve my Lord,
To grieve my Lord no more, no more.

Oh, Paul and Silas (Oh, Paul and Silas, Silas bound in jail) bound in jail,
The one did sing while the other prayed (The one did sing while the other prayed).
CHORUS

If you get there (If you get there before I do) before I do,
Look out for me, I'm coming through (Look out for me, I'm coming through).
CHORUS
-Carl Diton, Thirty-six South Carolina Spirituals, G. Schirmer, Inc. NY 1928
-Retrieved from "Mudcat: Ain't Gonna Grieve" posted by Joe Offer, Date: 06 Jul 07 - 04:57 AM, sent to him by Q

My Opinion About The Meaning Of The Title & Line "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord No More"
Reposted from "Mudcat: Ain't Gonna Grieve", Azizi
Date: 23 Sep 05 - 09:35 PM

"Has anyone else ever wondered what the heck "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord No More" means?...

I believe that "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord No More" originally was an African American gospel song which translated in standard English is "I'm not going to mourn [be sorrowful] anymore".

The word "Lord" appears in a number of African American gospel, blues, and other genre of songs at the beginning of the sentence [sorry, I'm not sure what parts or part of speech this is called].
"My Lord! and "Lord Lord" also is used as an interjection in the middle of the sentences or lines in a number of different types of African American songs.

I don't think that the "My Lord" statement even necessarily means that the person is talking to the Lord God [Jesus?]. IMO, "My Lord" is an intensifier that stengthens or emphazizes the statement the person makes about not grieving anymore. In that case, the sentence means "I'm really not going to mourn anymore."

Of course, there's no way to know if my theory about the meaning of this sentence is true, but it works for me."
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Editor's Comment:
At least one person on that discussion thread vehemently indicated her belief that the title meant that the person singing was indicating that she or he would no longer give any grieve to the Lord. In response to that theory, I indicated that I believed that "my theory is more in keeping with the African American cultural use of the word "grieve" and "my lord"." For what it's worth, the aforementioned blogger Q agreed with my position.

Visit that Mudcat thread to read more comments about the meaning of that title, and to find more religious versions and non-religious versions of this song.

Comments About & One Example Of A Non-Religious Version Of This Song
Since at least the mid 20th century, in the United States & elsewhere "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord No More" has been sung as a lighthearted folk song/children's camp song. Its origin as an African American Gospel song is largely unknown.

Non-religious versions of "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord No More" appear to be most often known as "Oh You Can't Get To Heaven" or "Oh You'll Never Get To Heaven". Those titles are lifted from the chorus that is generally used for this song. "Oh You Can't Get To Heaven" may also be known by the title "The Deacon Went Down To The Cellar To Pray". That title comes from a verse that is commonly sung for this song.

Some standard verses from "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord No More" are floaters, meaning they are used with other songs. One such song is "I Woke Up Sunday Morning". Click http://cocojams.com/content/childrens-camp-songs for information and examples about that song.

Also from at least the mid 20th century, while there were some standard verses for the non-religious versions of "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord..", there was also the expectation that people would come up with additional, two line silly or witty rhyming or near rhyming verses for that song. Unfortunately, this custom appears to have largely been put aside.

Here's one non-religious version of "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord No More":

AIN'T GONNA GRIEVE MY LORD NO MORE
Oh, the Deacon went down, (2x)
To the cellar to pray, (2x)
He found a jug, (2x)
And he stayed all day. (2x)
Oh, the Deacon went down to the cellar to pray,
He found a jug and he stayed all day,
Ain't gonna grieve my Lord no more.

cho: I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.
I ain't a-gonna grieve my lord no more.
Ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

You can't get to Heaven on roller skates,
You'll roll right by them pearly gates.

You can't get to Heaven on a rocking chair,
'Cause the Lord don't want no lazybones there.

You can't get to Heaven in a limousine,
'Cause the Lord don't sell no gasoline.

If you get to Heaven before I do,
Just drill a hole and pull me through.

If I get to Heaven before you do,
I'll plug that hole with shavings and glue.

You can't get to Heaven with powder and paint,
It makes you look like what you ain't.

You can't chew tobaccy on that golden shore,
'Cause the Lord don't have no cuspidor.

"That's all there is, there ain't no more,"
Saint Peter said as he closed the door.

There's one thing more I forgot to tell,
If you don't go to Heaven, you'll go to Hell.

I'll put my grief up on the shelf,
If you want some more, make 'em up yourself.

Source: http://mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=159
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Some "You can't get to heaven" verses are mild putdowns. Making up those kinds of verses can be considered to be a "pre-dozens" exercise.**

An example of what I mean by a "mild putdowns" is this verse:
"You can't get to Heaven with powder and paint,
It makes you look like what you ain't.
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An example of a mild putdown that I made up when I was a child is:
"Oh you'll never get to heaven with Debbie's face.
'Cause Debbie's face is a disgrace."
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Of course, I didn't sing this verse to be mean. It was all in fun. That said, I realize now that such putdowns can be hurtful.

** In African American culture, "the dozens" is a formulaic competitive exchange of insults between two persons. Click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dozens for information about "the dozens".

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FEATURED VIDEOS
Video #1: Cedarmont Kids - Oh, You Can't Get to Heaven



Uploaded by TheSevenTrip on Sep 13, 2011

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Video #2: Oh you can't get to Heaven



Uploaded by singinggrandpa on Dec 13, 2007

Family traditions of folk songs and gospel hymns are sung at every holiday and get together. These were recorded Thanksgiving 2007 to memorialize many of the songs we have heard for years and were special songs to us growing up.

Some are familiar hymns and folk songs, some are very unique and rarely every heard. Some date back over 100 years.

Hope you enjoy them
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Editor's Comment:
For the record (no pun intended), I consider the second verse of "Oh You Can't Get To Heaven" that is sung in this video to be (probably unknowingly) culturally insensitive. That verse is:
"Oh you can't get to heaven with a freckled face...
'Cause God don't want no speckled race.

However, I selected this video because it & the uploader's comments demonstrate the tradition of informally singing "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord No More" ("Oh You Can't Get To Heaven") during family gatherings & how sometimes extemporaneous verses were added to its "standard" verses.

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RELATED LINK
http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/09/bo-diddley-dearest-darling-sound-file.html
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ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS AND THANKS
Thanks to the original unknown composers of this song. Thanks also to all those whose comments, lyrical transcriptions, and videos are reposted on this page.

Thanks for visiting pancocojams.

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